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. it was the first white house meeting for the nra in nearly two decades yesterday and this morning its president told matt lauer he was not pleased about how it went. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration. first of all on what would make a difference. we don't think a ban on so-called assault weapons which hasn't worked in the past will work this time. >> one of the major pieces the vice president appears to be focused on is not the assault weapons ban but background checks. >> there's a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. not just close the gun show loophole but total universal background checks, including private sales. >> and the "washington post" reports today the white house is at least considering an nra proposal to fund police in schools, that's something now being pushed by democratic senator barbara boxer. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and ryan grim. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> the nra said and i'm quoting here, we were disappointed with how little this mee
. wayne lapierre, chief executive officer of the nra and mark kelly, married to former congresswoman gabby giffords and leading the fight for gun control. we learned that gabby giffords will testify. i want to bring in managing editor of the grio. gabby dif fords tweeted, heading to senate for hearing on gun violence, thanks to senator leahy and chuck grassley for starting this conversation. i'm wondering if you think the voice of gabby gifford, she has an emotional story and she knows these folks. how influential can she be in this? >> she has tremendous moral authority on this issue as did the families from newtown. i think having people like her being a part of this conversation, it only adds to the pressure on republicans to give something. i think the only outcome that seems impossible is that absolutely nothing would be done. because you have a con fluance of events. you add the outrage of it happening to children, so i can't imagine that nothing would be done. >> we see wayne lapierre in that group of people. i think as i was giving this some thought this morning, because we've talk
. >> meantime, that controversial nra ad that cites the obama children gets four pinnoccios from the washington post. and it didn't fair any better with governor chris christie. >> to use that somehow, to make a political point i think is reprehensible. i think it's awful to bring public figures' children into the political debate. they don't deserve to be there. and i think for any of us who are public figures, you see that kind of ad and you cringe. >> let's bring in republican strategist and former santorum -- good morning, gentlemen, happy friday. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> it's not just chris christie, there's a new poll that shows 38% of a favorable view of the nra, its positions seemingly often at odds. not just with all americans, but, for example, 70% support a national data base to track gun sales, john. is the nra's influence waning? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that certainly they still have popularity. i think people still believe in what they do, but i've got to tell you, i've got to join with governor christie. i make ads for a living. i've been doing it for 20 years
between joe biden and among others, the nra. congressman, this meeting also with hollywood, the video game industry, how important is it? >> it's so important. i never once thought that the churches and the synagogues and the american people were prepared to take on the nra. they are so unbelievably powerful on the hill. but now with the president bringing in the swinging joe biden, would assume many with bloomberg just waiting to get up to bat. >> and your friend, governor cuomo, did you hear him yesterday. >> exactly. >> let me play a clip from his state of the state address yesterday. >> i say to you forget the extremists. it's simple. no one hunts with an assault rifle. no one needs ten bullets to kill a deer and too many innocent people have died already. [ applause ] >> there are two perspectives on statements like that. one is it's very important for somebody who's high-profile to get out there, to set the example. the other is, he's a liberal democrat. he's in a state that already has tough gun control laws and essentially it doesn't mean that much. what do you think? >> i think co
against gun manufacturers and was a huge handout to the nra. that bill only passed because donald rumsfeld's pentagon weigh ed in and said the pentagon need this had to protect the gun industry. what chuck hagel can do is help undo the damage the pentagon has done by pushing through a new memorandum that would say this really isn't something that the pentagon wants. obama will need his whole cabinet onboard to get this done. chuck hagel is someone we don't think about who could be a leader on gun control but could be instrumental in making sure gun control is something that happens. >> what would be the net effect of a memorandum like that? >> it would be a huge step forward for the pentagon in undoing what i call the unholy alliance between the pentagon and the nra. when this bill was passed wayne lapierre came out and said this is one of the biggest pro-gun legislation accomplishments in 20 years, and he was right. it did a huge amount of damage, the abilities of cities and straights across the country to hold gun companies accountable. if hagel goes forward and says, look, what the pent
they live in those gun states, they fear the nra? tell us about the difficulties of getting some people like harry reid on board. >> right. it's because they understand the politics of guns. the problem for gun control advocates has never been broad popularity. a majority of people generally support gun control. they support an assault weapons ban. you showed those polls. there's broad support for these kinds of things. the problem isn't intensity. people who support an assault weapons ban don't -- in the past have not voted on their support of an assault weapons ban. you know, they would say that, yes, given the choice between having a ban and not having one, i prefer to have one. but candidates know it's not going to cost them which way they go. however, people who oppose an assault weapons ban or support, you know, all of these bevy of gun rights, a lot of those people do vote. even if it's a vanishingly small part of the electorate that is passionate about this, if it actually moves votes, then for somebody like manchin or reid who reid keeps winning by 1,000, 2,000 votes you can't affor
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